Just enough crimp to hold the head in placei would crimp if the rounds were being used in a tubular feed as in an underlever where the rounds come into contact with each other length wise. All loads use federal brass, winchester small rifle primers. Id like to keep the velocitys in the 1200fps with the. The reason i said that is because there is a lot of really bad load data for re7 and the 45 70. All i can say about this is from my book 40 years with the 45 70 so this isnt my statement. Our load data is only for use in the new breed of strong action rifles such as those listed below. On line load data, cast alloy, and other references.
I noticed that the mild load of 36 grs varget was doing a good job of filling up the 5070 case. I have shot the 4570 leverevolution ammo, and yes, the case is slightly shorter than the standard 4570 case. I looked in the manual and got the load data for the lever action rifles. On line free load data and references marlin owners. Need some reloading data for 4570 alaska outdoors forums. This can occur when trying to select a pdf or an ai file as a data source, or. One of my 45 70 recipe is with 3031, its proven quite accurate. Do not use these data in either of the prior two sections of 45 70 data trapdoor and lever actions.
Ive been thinking about putting together some 350gr and 420gr or 450gr loads with this powder and not really sure where to start. Hornady manufacturing company develops and publishes reloading data for the handbook of cartridge reloading. Most of the game i have killed with that barrel has been with a 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullet. Under no circumstances should this data be used in original trapdoor springfields, modern trapdoor replicas, original sharps model 1874 rifles, any rolling block actions, or other original old 45 70 rifles. I recently purchased some of the new ballistic silver tip 300 grain bullets for my 45 70. I dont reload that caliber but if you look at the bottom of the page at the similar threads youll see one that is titled. Ive got the lyman 457192a of about 320gr and a heavier one or two more. Imr3031 is the old standby for smokeless loads in the. Unique 4570 load data hey all, ive put together a nice load using unique with a 405gr cast boolit.
I did not experience this with standard 45 70 cases. You must agree to the terms below before continuing. Varg is not very good for the 45 70 as the starting load for the 300 hp is 60. Not so much for hunting, more for target work at first, till i find a load that is accurate out to 100yds. Howdy, ive been trying different powders in my 45 70 marlin 1895 and was wondering if anyone had some good loads for imr 4198. I know some guys that use it, but i dont like 4227 in the 4570. Anyone who has worked with the 4570 government with loads using. Mauser m98 bolt actions properly converted to fire 45 70 ammunition. I recently purchased some of the new ballistic silver tip 300 grain bullets for my 4570. I did not experience this with standard 4570 cases.
I am planning to use this round for deer size critters and hogs in south arkansas and texas. The reason i said that is because there is a lot of really bad load data for re7 and the 4570. Got lots of varget and both hornaday 300 gr jrn and sierra 350 hps. Unique has proven accurate with all bullets ive tried, from 300 to 500 grains. I know some guys that use it, but i dont like 4227 in the 45 70. Looking at various sites, it seems the heavier the better in the marlin. Barnes ttsx bt 80 nosler ballistic tip, varmint 85 speer sp 87. The best range load for this powder, bullet and rifle seems to be around the 45 gr of imr 3031 mark. I believe it was around 2200 fps from the data i used didnt run it over a chronograph. Do not shake it down or add more than is recommended. In 1932, fred barnes began selling bullets made in his bayfield, colorado basement workshop.
They have a number of pages from various companies in regards to loading data for the 4570 in the contender. Heres some online load data that i have used and found very useful. Hodgdon also features cowboy shotshell loads with triple. Refer to the current speer reloading manual for handloading instructions. Thats interesting, i have the lastest lyman manual and there isnt any data listed. That will surely get you started and theres plenty more information from other. Buyers and users assume all risk, responsibility and liability whatsoever for any and all injuries including death, losses or damages to persons or property including consequential damages, arising from the use of any product or data, whether or not occasioned by sellers negligence or based on strict liability or principles of indemnity or. Make sure you choose your load from the book sections labeled for trapdoor springfields. Howdy, ive been trying different powders in my 4570 marlin 1895 and was wondering if anyone had some good loads for imr 4198.
Do not use these data in any of the firearms listed in the trapdoor section. You might try this lasercast load data, i think you have to use the bottom table for your reproduction sharps. I know all about the 3 different sets of 4570 load data and i was looking at both the trapdoor and levergun data but like i originally said, even that data was in a big conflict. Improper handloading practices can result in serious personal injury andor property damage. The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield. I have shot the 45 70 leverevolution ammo, and yes, the case is slightly shorter than the standard 45 70 case. Team old pharts, team marlin express, team 3030, team 4570, team 60, team.
Id like to put together some light loads, but all my books only show trail boss, which is impossible for me to find right now. This data is intended for use only in modern, marlin 1895 rifles in good condition. These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Not sure if the powder formulation changed, or if people wised up because somebody got their loads tested. I only have the 250 grain load that i used at hand. All i can say about this is from my book 40 years with the 4570 so this isnt my statement. Those were my thoughts one hundred rounds into the evaluation. Working with the data merge feature of adobe indesign is something i do often. Jessica brooksstevens hunts cape buffalo in mozambique. Powder measuring technique push the measure through the powder only once, then give the measure a slight shake sideways to level it off. I recently acquired an 1895 and want to start loading for it. Extract, transform, and load data 4045% design and implement an extract, transform, and load etl control flow by using a sql server. I knew i was firing powerful, highly developed and carefully cons. I can find data where folks are putting 49gr behind a 405gr jsp and that yields a pressure close to 60kpsi.
By clicking the i agree button, i understandaccept and will agree to abide by the precautions and warnings outlined below. Unique is listed for the 45 70 in manuals back to the first cast bullet manual in 1958, at least. I have always used that load data for my gun and it worked well. This is what im talking about, all data is under the 4570 levergun sections. Most accurate load tested compressed load because nosler, inc. Do not use these data in either of the prior two sections of 4570 data trapdoor and lever actions. Even though i now had loads for 4570 using these 405 gr cast bullets, i wondered what hornady 325 gr leverevolution ammunition would chronograph. One of my 4570 recipe is with 3031, its proven quite accurate. Aug, 2016 i use very little crimp on mine, the reason being its a single shot rifle like yours its a 45 70. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. A few of the 4570 loads and bullets from my archive, leftto right.
Smalley and mcpherson designed monolithic brass 362grain transsonic bullet and load. I dont think i was using as much though, i want to say 48 grs powder and a lee cast 340 gr maybe. When reading pdf forms, some form data might be lost. Those cases are big, and i really dont like low case fill loads. As jimkim shared, it is not much, but it is enough that if you do not resize the case, and try to load a regular bullet into the hornady case, the bullet will fall in. A pure ruby library to merge pdf files, number pages and maybe more. So, i loaded up 20 5070 cases with 40 grs of varget under the lyman 515141 and went to the. Imo you will not be able to produce loads that will work well in both rifles using the same load data.
These data are intended for the 1895 lever action marlin only. Looking at a local supplier, rogers better bullets. But then that is my preferred powder for the 45 70. Well he is correct i have been shooting this plinker load for around 5 years. Occasionally, we will temporarily publish load data on this page when a bullet becomes available and is not yet listed in the latest edition of the handbook. If you intend to handload for your 4570, use only data presented in a modern.
There were no malfunctions of any kind feeding, ejecting, etc. I took that data and loaded the 300 gr sierra and 54 grains of h4198. Even though i now had loads for 45 70 using these 405 gr cast bullets, i wondered what hornady 325 gr leverevolution ammunition would chronograph. Over the next 40 years, the company gained a solid reputation by offering premium bullets to hunters who rolled their own. Again, this is 80 gr lighter bullet than the ones we were testing. Load to access graph by powder type to compare 450 marlin and 4570 350gr loads. My loads are a bit milder being high trapdoor, level 1 to low level 2 loads. I flexed my fingers and began another firing string.